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Outlet Box for #6/3 Conductors

 
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:20 am    Post subject: Outlet Box for #6/3 Conductors Reply with quote


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I'm wiring up an outlet box for a 50 amp Control Panel. With #6/3 conductors, I need a 4" deep box but can't seem to find one at the big box stores. Tried using an extension (see pic) but it's too flimsy and I'm uncomfortable using it with a 240 v plug. Any suggestions?



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PostLink    Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do not need a 4" deep box for this. Standard stove wall receptacles are 40-50 amp and do not require that space. You can fit a 50 amp receptacle like this in a standard box:

http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/50A-250V-4-wire-stove-receptacle-outlet-NEMA-14-50R

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, Iím using that receptacle, however the #6 stranded wires are stiff and I canít get them to fit in a standard 4x4 box and still close the cover. Wire bend radius wonít allow it. The problem is - Iím coming in from the top of the box and need to bend to connect to the plug.

A 50 amp surface mount range plug may be what I need for straight line terminations.

https://www.amazon.com/EATON-WD1212-125-Volt-Surface-Receptacle/dp/B000FPDO7G/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=50+amp+surface+mount+range+plug&qid=1565175669&s=gateway&sr=8-4&linkCode=ll1&tag=theelectricbrewery-20&linkId=d766d2302150be53cc423b0ac9aca3d8&language=en_US
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mjo2125 wrote:
The problem is - Iím coming in from the top of the box and need to bend to connect to the plug.

Install the receptacle the other way around. You're allowed to do this (it's to NEC code), as there's actually no "standard" or "correct" orientation for receptacles.

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that the plug is facing downward which allow straight terminations- got it.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went with the surface mount option for my specific situation with mounting to a concrete wall. Clean, compact install. It allows for a front facing plugin and avoids having to make a conduit offset to mount to the wall.


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