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kal Forum Administrator
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Master
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Link Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Y'all have an estimated price for it, or that still being determined?
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kal Forum Administrator
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Master
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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If they are packed like the standard new Hopstopper, I think just having a quantity discount on the website would be easiest.
Say
1 $20
2 $35
3 or more $15ea
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kal Forum Administrator
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mvakoc
Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Posts: 152 Location: Evergreen, CO
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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kal wrote: | Quantity discounts will definitely be provided, just curious what 'packs' people would be interested in as it will depend on how many kegs people tend to have full at any given time (I tend to have anywhere from 14-16 full).
Kal |
I would think the typical brewer would only use this on a subset of brews/styles. It all depends on the individual process, as I utilize a brite tank so would only use these when there are in keg additions.
That said, the ability to add in keg additions and not clog the ball locks (which I find incredibly easy to clog with a seemingly painful recovery needed) is a huge win for homebrewers. It's not like a commercial brewery could ever do this!
I would forsee adding primarily whole hops to individual kegs followed by vanilla, spices, and more.
Price is always the driving factor but could forsee having 4-6 of these. For reference, I have ~14 kegs (but far too many that sit empty).
I'm curious how these work with the two styles of dip tubes I have. Some go right to the center of a concave bottom (as pictured) while some diptubes are straight and go to their own dedicated "hole" or indent on the side of the keg. In the later case I can't picture how these would work, and you wouldn't want to modify the dip tub length as every keg would then leave a lot of beer behind.
Hope that helps the product research.
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the feedback!
mvakoc wrote: | I would think the typical brewer would only use this on a subset of brews/styles. It all depends on the individual process, as I utilize a brite tank so would only use these when there are in keg additions. |
Agreed! Though that said, I do use a brite tank (mostly for dry hopping before kegging) and I do find these useful even when I don't dry hop in the keg (something I rarely do) as I often get hop sludge in the keg simply because of the amount of brite tank dry hops I use which in turn clogs up the dip tube. Like you mentioned, depends on the process.
Quote: | I'm curious how these work with the two styles of dip tubes I have. Some go right to the center of a concave bottom (as pictured) while some diptubes are straight and go to their own dedicated "hole" or indent on the side of the keg. In the later case I can't picture how these would work, and you wouldn't want to modify the dip tub length as every keg would then leave a lot of beer behind. |
Agreed - I have a couple of kegs with straight dip tubes that sit in a 'trench' at the bottom. The hop stopper I show here wouldn't work with that without cutting the dip tube shorter which (as you mentioned) would end up leaving beer behind. The manufacturer's trying our some alternate options now to see if he can accommodate straight dip tubes. For me, over the last ~6 months I've been using these I've saved those straight dip tube kegs for beers like light lagers and Kolschs where you don't necessarily need a keg filter.
Kal
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mvakoc
Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Posts: 152 Location: Evergreen, CO
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Link Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:49 am Post subject: |
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kal wrote: | Thanks for the feedback!
mvakoc wrote: | I would think the typical brewer would only use this on a subset of brews/styles. It all depends on the individual process, as I utilize a brite tank so would only use these when there are in keg additions. |
Agreed! Though that said, I do use a brite tank (mostly for dry hopping before kegging) and I do find these useful even when I don't dry hop in the keg (something I rarely do) as I often get hop sludge in the keg simply because of the amount of brite tank dry hops I use which in turn clogs up the dip tube. Like you mentioned, depends on the process.
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Understood. I should have clarified my use of brite tank (Ss brite tank) is purely for conditioning/clearing the beer. Any dry hopping (which I nearly always do too) would have been done in the primary vessel (a Unitank). I understand this wouldn't be the typical case so those dry hopping in the keg would see a big benefit, I suspect.
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Quote: | I'm curious how these work with the two styles of dip tubes I have. Some go right to the center of a concave bottom (as pictured) while some diptubes are straight and go to their own dedicated "hole" or indent on the side of the keg. In the later case I can't picture how these would work, and you wouldn't want to modify the dip tub length as every keg would then leave a lot of beer behind. |
Agreed - I have a couple of kegs with straight dip tubes that sit in a 'trench' at the bottom. The hop stopper I show here wouldn't work with that without cutting the dip tube shorter which (as you mentioned) would end up leaving beer behind. The manufacturer's trying our some alternate options now to see if he can accommodate straight dip tubes. For me, over the last ~6 months I've been using these I've saved those straight dip tube kegs for beers like light lagers and Kolschs where you don't necessarily need a keg filter.
Kal |
I have no idea what percentage of my kegs are straight tubes versus bent to the middle. If the clean ones weren't already santized and ready for product I could open up and do a survey, but I'm too lazy to touch an already prepped beast. My only advise on that would be to make it very clear to the potential buyer which keg stopper would work with a particular keg design.
I'm looking forward to pushing this thing to the limit. If it works anywhere near as good as the hop stopper 2.0, which is absolutely fantastic, I'm sure it'll contribute to some amazing brews.
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:22 am Post subject: |
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mvakoc wrote: | My only advise on that would be to make it very clear to the potential buyer which keg stopper would work with a particular keg design. |
Agreed! Full disclosure has always been my mantra. My background is in engineering, not sales and marketing (those types would hate me).
Quote: | I'm looking forward to pushing this thing to the limit. If it works anywhere near as good as the hop stopper 2.0, which is absolutely fantastic, I'm sure it'll contribute to some amazing brews. |
Cool!
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Link Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Any update on these little guys?
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kal Forum Administrator
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kal Forum Administrator
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Master
Joined: 30 Jan 2016 Posts: 171 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Link Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Lets just say, I'm brewing an insanely hoppy IIPA on Friday.
I'm contemplating keg dry hopping.
Any chance these are available in the next month?
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Joined: 14 Aug 2011 Posts: 409 Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Link Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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After you launch these beauties, how about a version for fermenters?
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:23 am Post subject: |
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What fermenter do you use? What purpose or usage are you trying to cover?
Yeast can be fairly thick. That's why racking arms in some fermenters can be moved to keep the arm out of the trub/yeast. You rack from above it. Or you use a conical and dump the yeast first.
I don't think a hop stopper to filter out yeast would (or could) work, but instead a hop stopper that could go on a racking arm that sits ABOVE the yeast to filter out dry hops. Is that what you're interested in? It is something we're considering.
Kal
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Link Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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kal wrote: | What fermenter do you use? What purpose or usage are you trying to cover?
Yeast can be fairly thick. That’s why racking arms in some fermenters can be moved to keep the arm out of the trub/yeast. You rack from above it. Or you use a conical and dump the yeast first.
I don’t think a hop stopper to filter out yeast would (or could) work, but instead a hop stopper that could go on a racking arm that sits ABOVE the yeast to filter out dry hops. Is that what you're interested in? It is something we're considering.
Kal |
It would be for dry hopping. Of course, it is somewhat problematic considering the various racking arm configurations.
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Link Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Any updates?
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