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Electric Hop Candy Jr. (New England Pale Ale)
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rivetcatcher




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PostLink    Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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Just reading the above, if you are looking for another yeast try SAF 04. I tried it and it works great. I also skip the secondary on this one and put the hops in primary. Once again, it works great. No complaints here.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome, thanks for the reply rivet

I am going with saf-05 on the next batch and will do the secondary transfer once more before trying the single vessel method.

Do you do any yeast/trub dumps at any point? And do you cold crash?

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No dumps, I just leave it all on the trub but I do cold crash and transfer straight to keg.

Saf 05 is a very clean yeast so you wont get the fruity esters that you get from the English strains so it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Keep us posted.
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks rivert! I will get some s04 for the next batch and compare! I was tempted to do that from the start, given the same facts I found in my own research, which included your very posts about trying it last year in place of the Wyeast. But I had the s05 already and was encouraged to give it a shot as it should do a great job as well. We'll see...
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recipe has been re-written and moved to our new site.

See: https://shop.theelectricbrewery.com/pages/electric-hop-candy-jr-new-england-style-pale-ale

This thread will remain open for questions. Cheers!

Kal

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Walts Malt




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Drinking: German Pils, Dry Hopped Saison, Celebration Clone

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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iím planning on brewing this on Friday, but would love take some on our annual fishing trip (in bottles), which is three weeks from Friday. Do you think I can ferment this and keg it in three weeks time, and then the night before I leave fill a number of bottles? If necessary, I have a carbonating lid that Iíve had decent success in carbonating a keg in about 1-2 days. Iím assuming this beer is a good beer to drink young.

Thoughts?
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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely! See the recommendations in the notes section of the recipe - itís what I do to get this on tap quickly. Looking at my notes from my past 5-6 batches, and assuming you pitch my recommended yeast amount and follow my fermentation schedule, you should be 11-13 days from brew day to keg. Then 24 hours to carb. Then bottle. You definitely want to drink this young and fresh.

Good luck!

Kal

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brewed this again just before Christmas, but substituted Omega Sundew Yeast (OYL-401) after watching a video from Northern Brewer with Omega employees and wanted to give it a try. Overall, Iím not too happy with it. Itís definitely drinkable, but I feel like it muted the hops in this beer a bit. I almost wonder if this yeast would be better in a beer that it doesnít compete with the hops as much as I detect quite a bit of strawberry from the yeast (those were also the words used by the employee from Midwest Supplies where I purchased the yeast).

Full disclosure: I had a fermenting problem as I accidentally connected my air lock to the out post of the keg I ferment in instead of the in post. Once the beer started fermenting it spilled out into my fermenting chamber. A 10 gallon batch turned into a 6 gallon batch in a matter of hours. Could this have caused some problems? I donít think so as I was careful as possible to minimize oxygen into the fermenter.

Would I brew again with this yeast? Definitely not with this beer. My previous batch of this beer with the yeast in the recipe was very good. It seemed like a fun experiment until you taste the beer and realize it didnít make it better, just quite a bit different.

I wouldnít discourage anyone from trying it, but probably try it with a different recipe. I would also recommend watching the video with Northern Brewer and Omega to form your own opinions of the yeast prior to using it.
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Walts Malt wrote:
Full disclosure: I had a fermenting problem as I accidentally connected my air lock to the out post of the keg I ferment in instead of the in post. Once the beer started fermenting it spilled out into my fermenting chamber. A 10 gallon batch turned into a 6 gallon batch in a matter of hours. Could this have caused some problems?

I'd have to look at the blow off and your setup to understand exactly happened, but the main thing that comes to mind is that you may have blown off a pile of the yeast in the process, reducing the pitch density, which may stress the yeast to reproduce more in order to keep the density up... Stressing yeast throws more esters / yeast derived flavours (something you may or may not want). Not sure how OYL-401 behaves if you underpitch as I've never used it or read about it. I'd say as long as it attenuated as expected, you're probably ok. Note that since the yeast is new to you, knowing if the FG ended up where it should is not obvious (you can't use the expected FG from the recipe or your previous batches with a different yeast).

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I donít think so as I was careful as possible to minimize oxygen into the fermenter.

That's not usually an issue as fermentation is constantly outgassing. No way for O2 to get in. It's why open fermentation works.

Cheers!

Kal

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal,

Great points. Not trying to downplay the specific yeast, as I have liked Omega yeasts in the past. However, Iím going to go back to not trying to mess with what works, i.e. if you like the beer, why mess with a good thing. Next time I brew it Iím going back to the original recipe with the recommended yeast.

One thing I have enjoyed about your recipes is that, first and foremost, they are consistent. Secondly, I donít think they chase the latest fade and sacrifice balance and consistency.
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Walts Malt wrote:
Not trying to downplay the specific yeast, as I have liked Omega yeasts in the past. However, Iím going to go back to not trying to mess with what works, i.e. if you like the beer, why mess with a good thing.

Because that's part of the fun of brewing! Wink

In all seriousness, experimenting is definitely part of the fun (at least for me). Trying out different yeasts is one of the things I do often and why I split my wort into two fermenters. Sometimes it's the same yeast but I ferment at different temps or different pitch rates, just to see what the results will be. You kinda have to do that in the same batch as comparing beers made weeks apart doesn't always work.

Kal

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