No Hose Move Brew Session Setup

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:12 pm Post subject:

Im using chugger stainless in-line pumps, bought when they first can out so they may have been improved since then but I will say they don't hold up over time to heat, I wouldn't subject these to any temp over 165f for long periods of time

dp Brewing Company · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:25 pm Post subject:

Interesting, I must have the improved ones. I've had mine for about 4 years. Never had any issues except for the time I didn't clean well enough and it was clogged shut. I had to take it apart and clean it, but I can't blame anyone but myself for that one.

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:26 pm Post subject:

I whirl pool right after boiling and I think it erodes something or knocks the impeller out of balance

dp Brewing Company · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:34 pm Post subject:

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:56 pm Post subject:

I just ordered new impellers, although last time I took them apart I swear one fixed magnet hooked to the shaft wobbled, I report back

dp Brewing Company · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:00 pm Post subject:

I wonder if it has anything to do with the orientation of your pump heads. Mine are both horizontal and I see you have yours vertical. Wonder if air gets trapped before the impeller. Nothing concrete to base this on, just an observation.

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:15 pm Post subject:

I had mine horizontal for years just changed mine last year, but had problems before that even

**kal** · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:27 pm Post subject:

Not sure about damages or other issues, but look at the pics that Ozarks Mountain Brew posted, he'll definitely having priming issues because:

- The heads are not 3/4" center inlet which aid in priming/head flooding.

- The fact that he's feeding from below and there's a height difference between the hose and the pump (a vertical climb to the head). Always try and minimize this distance.

- The vertical distance between kettle outputs and the pump heads is not very large (the force will be low once the water or wort reaches the pump). Always try and maximize this distance.

Bleeder valves would definitely help which I believe he has. (Not required if you do what I recommend above - I don't use any and never have pump priming issues).

Kal

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:47 pm Post subject:

I agree with Kal but just to be clear these issues are not related to this latest design, Ive had issues for years but always managed to make them work by fiddling on brew day, bleeder valves would help the vapor locks defiantly and you can use the out port for that with the left pump but the heat related issues are a big issue

center inlet pumps may be the answer

**kal** · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:07 pm Post subject:

Agreed.

You should be able to run these pumps 24/7 with boiling water or wort if you wanted to. In fact, the pumps I recommend ( http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/pumps ) are often run that way. In talking with the manufacturer they have installations using these exact same pumps where near-boiling fluids are run for years non-stop. They laughed when I talked about the suitability of running them for up to 4-8 hours (max) continuously on a brew day. Wink

Kal

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:32 pm Post subject:

I cant see how this design will work with center inlet pump heads, the ball valve handle would hit, maybe Ill look at a redesign

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:34 pm Post subject:

this is my latest drawing with the center pumps, and the added connection to using the HLT as a chiller, totally optional, the only issue might be how the 3 way valve on the left pump is set up, a trial and error in that set up should be done, a note that the taller tables that kal recommends will allow for the correct hose size to keep the flow the same
there needs to be a definite clearance for the 3 way ball valve handles to spin all the way around so unfortunately pipe on top of the pump is necessary, take a look

Firebrewmedic43 · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:05 am Post subject:

My pumps are oriented vertically as well. An earlier post in this thread referenced an article in BYO on Pumps. Since I had the march pumps prior to finding this site I chose not to use the center inline pumps. The relief valve is invaluable. I have had to use them a couple of times and they work like a charm to get fluid moving. I just completed my second and third batch (yes a double brew day). Im still getting use to turning the valves at the right time but Im really liking this Electric system. Wish I had found it years ago. Thanks Kal...This forum has been a huge help as well. Brewed a saison using the Belle Saison yeast from Lallemand and Scotch using the Scottish ale yeast (1728) from Wyeast.

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:07 pm Post subject:

ok this is a decent pick of my kettles, Im revamping my control panel at the moment

dp Brewing Company · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:27 pm Post subject:

What size kettles do you use Ozarks?

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:35 pm Post subject:

I have 2-20s and 1-25 pot but concord brand

Ozarks Mountain Brew · Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:01 am Post subject:

update on my pumps, replaced my impellers and wallah absolutely perfect now, not even a squeak, no disengaging at high heat, no priming vapor locks, better than new

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