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Link Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:54 pm Post subject: Boiling Honey With The Electric Brewery |
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Hi everyone, I have this American Brown Ale recipe that I want to try and it requires boiling 3 pounds of honey (for a 5 gallon batch) in the boil kettle during the last 5 minutes of the boil, to stir and mix. After I fool around with the recipe in BeerSmith for an 11 gallon batch it will probably be close to 6 pounds of honey. I thought about adding the honey on the side of the kettle being careful not to hit the heating element and trying to stir. I also thought about taking out a few gallons of boiling wort and boiling the honey on the stove in a separate pot, and stirring it in to mix well. Then I could add this back into the boil kettle with the honey dissolved. Anyone actually use honey in the boil kettle with the electric brewery and the heating element in the same kettle? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
John
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 11122 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Simply add the honey slowly, so that it dissolves and the boil continues uninterrupted. I do it all the time with simple sugars (like table sugar or dextrose) which is what honey basically is. You don't want to drop in a whole ~6 pounds in one lump as it'll cool off the wort too much (stop the boil) given that you're adding a fairly large mass at room temp, and that is could also burn on the heating element if a giant mass falls on it. Drizzle it in at a reasonable pace and you'll be fine. I find turning the boil PID up to 100% while I do this helps bring the heat back faster.
Good luck!
Kal
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jcav
Joined: 21 Sep 2011 Posts: 205 Location: Central Florida
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Link Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Excellent sounds good Kal. One more thing, I want to avoid the middle of the kettle so it doesn't hit the heating element right? Otherwise it might give off flavors, or don't worry about it and just pour it in slowly a little at a time?
John
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Link Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Doesn't really matter where you add it as the wort is boiling vigorously. It's all about adding it reasonably slowly. Just like adding table sugar or dextrose. Pour it in a bit at a time over a few minutes instead of dumping it all in in one second.
In all cases with simple sugars only a few seconds of contact time are required to kill off any nasties that might be in there (however doubtful). So how long you boil isn't overly important.
I like to add simple sugars like this in the last few mins of the boil since higher gravity wort is less conducive to hop oil extraction.
Kal
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jcav
Joined: 21 Sep 2011 Posts: 205 Location: Central Florida
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Link Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Kal, I was worried about hitting the heating element and causing problems. I will add it during the last 5 minutes. Really appreciate the fast replies!
John
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Link Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:59 am Post subject: |
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No worries! It's not really an issue. We have many extract brewers using electric setups with heating elements with zero issues, adding extract to the boil. (Extract is like thick tar).
These guys here did hundreds of such batches in the first year or so operation using our control panel and heating elements:
Kal
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jcav
Joined: 21 Sep 2011 Posts: 205 Location: Central Florida
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Link Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Wow very good to know! I only used honey in past brews on an older system where I boiled in a pot using propane. I also used it years ago boiling on the stove in a pot in my extract days. Thanks again for the info.
John
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