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kal
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PostLink    Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:16 pm    Post subject: Belgian Super Saison Reply with quote


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Recipe is here: https://shop.theelectricbrewery.com/pages/belgian-super-saison

Questions? Ask below. Cheers!

Kal

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Tennessee



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PostLink    Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking for something different to brew. Now I have the recipe! Mug
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Drinking: German Lager, Electric Hop Candy Jr, Scottish 70/-, Cali Common, Maibock, Helles, Russian Imperial Stout, Black Butte Porter

Working on: Weizen


PostLink    Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoy Tennessee! Let us know how it turns out!

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PostLink    Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saison is one that people love that I make. It's always asked for. I use Crystal @ 60, 30 and 10. I also add bitter orange peel at 10 minutes.
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silverspoons



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PostLink    Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my annual saison in the fermenter right now. Always refreshing on those hot summer evenings. I add bitter orange peel, black pepper, fresh ginger root and fresh sweet orange peel at the 10 minute mark.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you posted your recipe before didn't you silverspoons? Pretty sure I printed it out and want to make that soon too.
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PostLink    Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll repost later

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PostLink    Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a PDF of the recipe from my Brewer's Friend account:

remember the step mashing..
i added the sugar at 10 min left in the boil:

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PostLink    Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx!
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm brewing this one today. Subbing out the hops with Tet for bittering and Rakau for late additions and dry hopping.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kraft Farm Brewing wrote:
I'm brewing this one today. Subbing out the hops with Tet for bittering and Rakau for late additions and dry hopping.

Good luck with the brew and welcome to the forum!

Kal

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could I lower the alcohol level to the 6ish range by decreasing the amount of grain while keeping the same percentages?
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup! That'll work.

You may want to lower the 60 min hops too slightly to keep the same bitterness to gravity ratio too, but I don't think it's critical given the reasonably low IBU / clean hops.

Kal

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I brewed this about 12 days ago. Mash efficiency on this system keeps improving, up to 88% now. I kept all the percentages the same but lowered the amounts so I could have 6.5% beer. I ferment in a ssbrewtech bucket inside a converted refrigerator/fermentation chamber so I can really keep an eye on the temp during fermentation. Fermentation did start off nicely in the beggining however it's been very slow and sluggish lately. I have slowly increased the temp to about 95. My last gravity readings corrected is 1.018 at 12 days. At what point do you think I might need to add another yeast to fully attenuate it, or should I try to be more patient. If I need to add another yeast, should I lower the temp of the wort down from 95 to the 68-70 range before I pitch it? I have some us-05 or Lalvin ec 1118 ready if needed.
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dward4421 wrote:
My last gravity readings corrected is 1.018 at 12 days. At what point do you think I might need to add another yeast to fully attenuate it, or should I try to be more patient.

I'd be more patient myself. If it completely stalls then consider adding a different attenuative yeast like champagne yeast.

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If I need to add another yeast, should I lower the temp of the wort down from 95 to the 68-70 range before I pitch it?

You'd need to go to whatever is best for the yeast you're adding.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one's going to be nice. Spicy, Dry, and a hint of clove!

4.5 Liter Starter

67F for 3 days > Raised 2 degrees per day for 13 days > Cold Crashed on day 17








Had about an inch of yeasties in the quart jar till I cold crashed. This is what I had the next day!


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kal
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Working on: Weizen


PostLink    Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! That finished dry - nice job!

Kal

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is finally carbonating in a keg now. It took just over 3 weeks to finish at 1.006. I was hoping for a bit more attenuation but the precarbed sample tasted good!
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent! Enjoy! Let us know how it is once carb'ed up.

Kal

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tapped this today. Very tasty! I thought it initially tasted sweet but the FG is 1.005. I retested my hydrometer to make sure my error chart was correct but it's consistent with my previous results. Overall I'm very pleased with it. I had my wife, whom doesn't like beer, sample this recipe and a Dupont and she said they taste very similar so I consider this batch a success!
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