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Roadie
Joined: 13 Oct 2013 Posts: 127 Location: Charleston, SC
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Link Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:50 pm Post subject: Silicone hose all the same? |
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I'm building my basement setup and have some hose but wanted to order more. Using the link Kal provides in his build for 1/2" id and 7/8" od hose on Amazon I come up with 25' of hose costing $137.45 OUCH! Free shipping. Hardness is 50 duro. Amazon stuff
I did some Google searching and came up with a medical site for silicone hose 1/2" id and 7/8" od with 25' of it costing only $86.56. Free shipping. Hardness is 60 duro.
[url="http://www.pawbio.com/sfm3-6650.html#.UuL2OBDnbRY"]this stuff[/url]
So my obvious question is will this medical grade hose work? Not sure if 50 vs. 60 duro is a big difference or not. Pic of hose in upper right looks like regular white silicone hose. Of course the office to this place is in NJ and they are closed until Monday so can't call them with questions. Such a huge price difference makes me want to try it. Opinions??
Sorry but for some reason I'm not speaking BBCode tonight. No idea why my links are working properly.
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rmoody
Joined: 28 Dec 2013 Posts: 34
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Link Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Well, that all depends on who you ask
I have not priced out 1/2" ID x 7/8" OD tube, mostly because of what you have discovered. Here are prices for the 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD tubing that I have:
$2.10 http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?cPath=178_59_549&products_id=10014
$1.99 http://stainlessbrewing.3dcartstores.com/Silicone-Tubing_p_136.html
$2.25 http://brewhardware.com/accessories-62/118-silicone5 (the clear stuff)
$2.20 http://www.brewershardware.com/silicone-hose-1-2.html (the not as clear stuff)
Now, Bobby at BrewHardware touts his *very clear* as the clearest he's ever seen, and they are pretty translucent, I have no idea if they are more or less clear than anyone else's are. I do know that Bobby has great advice and will answer questions when you ask them, a plus in his column if you ask me.
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Roadie
Joined: 13 Oct 2013 Posts: 127 Location: Charleston, SC
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Link Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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rmoody wrote: | Well, that all depends on who you ask
I have not priced out 1/2" ID x 7/8" OD tube, mostly because of what you have discovered. Here are prices for the 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD tubing that I have:
$2.10 http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?cPath=178_59_549&products_id=10014
$1.99 http://stainlessbrewing.3dcartstores.com/Silicone-Tubing_p_136.html
$2.25 http://brewhardware.com/accessories-62/118-silicone5 (the clear stuff)
$2.20 http://www.brewershardware.com/silicone-hose-1-2.html (the not as clear stuff)
Now, Bobby at BrewHardware touts his *very clear* as the clearest he's ever seen, and they are pretty translucent, I have no idea if they are more or less clear than anyone else's are. I do know that Bobby has great advice and will answer questions when you ask them, a plus in his column if you ask me. |
I posted the same question on HBT and his comment on the 7/8" line is that it's a waste of money.
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foomench
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Link Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Silicone hose all the same? |
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Roadie wrote: | Sorry but for some reason I'm not speaking BBCode tonight. No idea why my links are working properly. |
I think it is the quotation marks on the URL. [url="http://google.com"]Google with quotes[/url] Google without quotes
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Ozbrewer
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Kevin59
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Posts: 1047 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Just stick with the stuff rmoody pointed out that's just over $2 per ft. That price you got is almost enough to by the Silbrade tubing. Almost.
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Roadie
Joined: 13 Oct 2013 Posts: 127 Location: Charleston, SC
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Link Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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OK, will listen to everyone who says Kal's recommendation of 7/8" outside diameter isn't necessary and go with 3/4".
From rmoody's list brewhardware doesn't carry 1.5" tri-clamps that I also need to they are out and stainless brewing doesn't carry ptfe gaskets so scratched them as well. Went with brewershardware.com as they had everything I needed and since I bought 25' of hose their price per foot dropped to $2.05; whoo hoo!
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Kevin59
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Posts: 1047 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Roadie wrote: | OK, will listen to everyone who says Kal's recommendation of 7/8" outside diameter isn't necessary and go with 3/4". |
Just remember - never put that silicone under pressure from your household water supply. Not that I personally know what happens when you do...
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Roadie
Joined: 13 Oct 2013 Posts: 127 Location: Charleston, SC
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Link Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ozbrewer wrote: | I'm in Ireland, but bought my hosing off eBay in the uk via this link. It's on par with the hosing in Kal's setup. |
The translucent blue looks off white and not blue at all to me! Slightly less than .5 inches and you get roughly 65 feet of hose for $75 U.S. seems like a pretty good deal. Alas, that's there and not here in the U.S.
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Roadie
Joined: 13 Oct 2013 Posts: 127 Location: Charleston, SC
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Link Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Kevin59 wrote: | Roadie wrote: | OK, will listen to everyone who says Kal's recommendation of 7/8" outside diameter isn't necessary and go with 3/4". |
Just reminder - never put that silicone under pressure from your household water supply. Not that I personally know what happens when you do... |
Damn it... I was going based on this page and thought I could hook the silicone to a cold water faucet using garden hose connectors. Mind you I was going to use it for a plate chiller and not just to pour water from the faucet into the HLT but based on that page didn't think it mattered. I imagine the 7/8" silicone is the same as the 3/4" silicone in this regard as the silicone is too soft to use as a hose regardless of the wall thickness. Oh well, I probably needed another 10' of the silicone I just ordered even without using it for the water connection - so now I have some extra. Garden hose is probably cheaper anyway.
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Kevin59
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Ozarks Mountain Brew
Joined: 22 May 2013 Posts: 737 Location: The Ozark Mountains of Missouri
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Link Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:10 am Post subject: |
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I have a Camco 22833 Premium 5/8"ID Drinking Water Hoses, not sure if it means anything getting drinking hoses but for the water coming in and my plate chiller thats what I bought, stiffer than hell cold or warm though
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Kevin59
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Link Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Regarding that Tuff-Guard hose I should have been clear - I don't use that to fill my HLT.
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Ozarks Mountain Brew
Joined: 22 May 2013 Posts: 737 Location: The Ozark Mountains of Missouri
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Link Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:27 am Post subject: |
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for my plate chiller recirculation project I'm using washing machine braided stainless steal hose
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Roadie
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Link Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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todhend wrote: | I have a Camco 22833 Premium 5/8"ID Drinking Water Hoses, not sure if it means anything getting drinking hoses but for the water coming in and my plate chiller thats what I bought, stiffer than hell cold or warm though |
I ended up getting 2 of the Camco 22823 hoses which I believe is the same but only 10' long as my chiller faucet to the plate chiller isn't that far away. It is stiff though as you stated but we deal with that.
As far as 3/4" v. 7/8" silicone hose we bought all 7/8" and glad we did. Anyone who says this stuff is the same is just wrong. The 7/8" NEVER kinks whereas when we started brewing on a system like ours they used 3/4" hose and it kinked all the time where it connected to the pumps. The 7/8" is hella expensive but we have found it to be worth the fortune we paid for it.
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