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50a Breaker/Outlet for 30a Brewery?

 
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:11 am    Post subject: 50a Breaker/Outlet for 30a Brewery? Reply with quote


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I just installed a 240v outlet in my backyard for a welder. It has a 50a GFCI breaker and 14-50R receptacle as pictured below. I currently have a 30a brewery control panel.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71v6jiBa6gL._AC_SY679_.jpg

Would it be okay to use the same receptacle, but modify the power cord by replacing the plug connector with a 14-50P connector such as this one?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61YhnQB2ToL._AC_SL1200_.jpg

Thanks!
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which of our 30A control panels are you using exactly?

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kal wrote:
Which of our 30A control panels are you using exactly?

Kal


The North America kind. 120v/240v.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can certainly use it on a 50A line, but one of the safety features about using a 30A breaker in your home's electrical panel is that it helps protect the 10 gauge (30 amp) wiring inside your 30A panel. If ever there's an issue that causes a short and wants to drive current to infinity, your 30A breaker in your home's electrical panel will (or should) pop protecting that wiring. If you instead have a 50A breaker in your home's electrical panel there's a very short duration where the 10 gauge (30A wiring) in the panel will go from 30 to 50 before the breaker pops. Is that an issue? I don't really think so, but just want you to be aware. Cheers!

Kal

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kal wrote:
You can certainly use it on a 50A line, but one of the safety features about using a 30A breaker in your home's electrical panel is that it helps protect the 10 gauge (30 amp) wiring inside your 30A panel. If ever there's an issue that causes a short and wants to drive current to infinity, your 30A breaker in your home's electrical panel will (or should) pop protecting that wiring. If you instead have a 50A breaker in your home's electrical panel there's a very short duration where the 10 gauge (30A wiring) in the panel will go from 30 to 50 before the breaker pops. Is that an issue? I don't really think so, but just want you to be aware. Cheers!

Kal


This is exactly what I pictured in my head. Thank you Kal. Have a great rest of the weekend!
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You too - Cheers!

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