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rivetcatcher
Joined: 21 Apr 2016 Posts: 132 Location: Thailand
Drinking: Way Out Wheat - Mindcircus
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Just reading the above, if you are looking for another yeast try SAF 04. I tried it and it works great. I also skip the secondary on this one and put the hops in primary. Once again, it works great. No complaints here.
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alphakry
Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Posts: 88
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Awesome, thanks for the reply rivet
I am going with saf-05 on the next batch and will do the secondary transfer once more before trying the single vessel method.
Do you do any yeast/trub dumps at any point? And do you cold crash?
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rivetcatcher
Joined: 21 Apr 2016 Posts: 132 Location: Thailand
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:59 am Post subject: |
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No dumps, I just leave it all on the trub but I do cold crash and transfer straight to keg.
Saf 05 is a very clean yeast so you wont get the fruity esters that you get from the English strains so it will be interesting to see how it turns out.
Keep us posted.
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alphakry
Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Posts: 88
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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thanks rivert! I will get some s04 for the next batch and compare! I was tempted to do that from the start, given the same facts I found in my own research, which included your very posts about trying it last year in place of the Wyeast. But I had the s05 already and was encouraged to give it a shot as it should do a great job as well. We'll see...
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 11122 Location: Ottawa, Canada
Drinking: Pub Ale, Electric Creamsicle, Mild, Pliny the Younger, Belgian Dark Strong, Weizen, Russian Imperial Stout, Black Butte Porter
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Walts Malt
Joined: 27 Sep 2013 Posts: 119 Location: Farmington, MN
Drinking: Two Hearted Clone
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Link Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:22 am Post subject: |
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I’m planning on brewing this on Friday, but would love take some on our annual fishing trip (in bottles), which is three weeks from Friday. Do you think I can ferment this and keg it in three weeks time, and then the night before I leave fill a number of bottles? If necessary, I have a carbonating lid that I’ve had decent success in carbonating a keg in about 1-2 days. I’m assuming this beer is a good beer to drink young.
Thoughts?
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 11122 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Definitely! See the recommendations in the notes section of the recipe - it’s what I do to get this on tap quickly. Looking at my notes from my past 5-6 batches, and assuming you pitch my recommended yeast amount and follow my fermentation schedule, you should be 11-13 days from brew day to keg. Then 24 hours to carb. Then bottle. You definitely want to drink this young and fresh.
Good luck!
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Walts Malt
Joined: 27 Sep 2013 Posts: 119 Location: Farmington, MN
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Link Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Brewed this again just before Christmas, but substituted Omega Sundew Yeast (OYL-401) after watching a video from Northern Brewer with Omega employees and wanted to give it a try. Overall, I’m not too happy with it. It’s definitely drinkable, but I feel like it muted the hops in this beer a bit. I almost wonder if this yeast would be better in a beer that it doesn’t compete with the hops as much as I detect quite a bit of strawberry from the yeast (those were also the words used by the employee from Midwest Supplies where I purchased the yeast).
Full disclosure: I had a fermenting problem as I accidentally connected my air lock to the out post of the keg I ferment in instead of the in post. Once the beer started fermenting it spilled out into my fermenting chamber. A 10 gallon batch turned into a 6 gallon batch in a matter of hours. Could this have caused some problems? I don’t think so as I was careful as possible to minimize oxygen into the fermenter.
Would I brew again with this yeast? Definitely not with this beer. My previous batch of this beer with the yeast in the recipe was very good. It seemed like a fun experiment until you taste the beer and realize it didn’t make it better, just quite a bit different.
I wouldn’t discourage anyone from trying it, but probably try it with a different recipe. I would also recommend watching the video with Northern Brewer and Omega to form your own opinions of the yeast prior to using it.
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 11122 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Walts Malt wrote: | Full disclosure: I had a fermenting problem as I accidentally connected my air lock to the out post of the keg I ferment in instead of the in post. Once the beer started fermenting it spilled out into my fermenting chamber. A 10 gallon batch turned into a 6 gallon batch in a matter of hours. Could this have caused some problems? |
I'd have to look at the blow off and your setup to understand exactly happened, but the main thing that comes to mind is that you may have blown off a pile of the yeast in the process, reducing the pitch density, which may stress the yeast to reproduce more in order to keep the density up... Stressing yeast throws more esters / yeast derived flavours (something you may or may not want). Not sure how OYL-401 behaves if you underpitch as I've never used it or read about it. I'd say as long as it attenuated as expected, you're probably ok. Note that since the yeast is new to you, knowing if the FG ended up where it should is not obvious (you can't use the expected FG from the recipe or your previous batches with a different yeast).
Quote: | I don’t think so as I was careful as possible to minimize oxygen into the fermenter. |
That's not usually an issue as fermentation is constantly outgassing. No way for O2 to get in. It's why open fermentation works.
Cheers!
Kal
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Walts Malt
Joined: 27 Sep 2013 Posts: 119 Location: Farmington, MN
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Link Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Kal,
Great points. Not trying to downplay the specific yeast, as I have liked Omega yeasts in the past. However, I’m going to go back to not trying to mess with what works, i.e. if you like the beer, why mess with a good thing. Next time I brew it I’m going back to the original recipe with the recommended yeast.
One thing I have enjoyed about your recipes is that, first and foremost, they are consistent. Secondly, I don’t think they chase the latest fade and sacrifice balance and consistency.
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 11122 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Walts Malt wrote: | Not trying to downplay the specific yeast, as I have liked Omega yeasts in the past. However, I’m going to go back to not trying to mess with what works, i.e. if you like the beer, why mess with a good thing. |
Because that's part of the fun of brewing!
In all seriousness, experimenting is definitely part of the fun (at least for me). Trying out different yeasts is one of the things I do often and why I split my wort into two fermenters. Sometimes it's the same yeast but I ferment at different temps or different pitch rates, just to see what the results will be. You kinda have to do that in the same batch as comparing beers made weeks apart doesn't always work.
Kal
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alphakry
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Link Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:15 pm Post subject: Forgot hopstand |
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Crapola!!
I haven't brewed this in a long while and completely forgot the hopstand!! I've lowered the wort down to 66F and haven't pitched yet
Any thoughts on how to compensate for the lost hop stand?
Should I instead increase the drop hops? A Separate steep then add to conical?
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:26 am Post subject: Re: Forgot hopstand |
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alphakry wrote: | Crapola!!
I haven't brewed this in a long while and completely forgot the hopstand!! I've lowered the wort down to 66F and haven't pitched yet
Any thoughts on how to compensate for the lost hop stand?
Should I instead increase the drop hops? A Separate steep then add to conical? |
You're asking for an answer to an unanswerable question that nobody's dealt with.
Feel free to increase the dry hop amounts if you like. It will still be delicious beer I'm sure!
Kal
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alphakry
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Link Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:44 am Post subject: |
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lol, but of course! Experimentation is the name of the game... Thou I do always first think "if I was Kal, what would I do?"
Today (and always) - I am thankful for this forum and your never ending support of the little guys
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:47 am Post subject: |
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I get it! I'd probably increase the dry hop amounts a bit, or maybe not, as it's not really not the same thing.
Cheers!
Kal
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