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mjo2125



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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:58 am    Post subject: Bottles vs. Cans Reply with quote


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I fellow brewer told me about a homebrew beer can sealer made by Wisconsin Aluminum Foundry (WAF). Questions - If I brew a batch of beer (say an IPA) and "bottle" half of it and "can" half of it, would both taste the same? what are the plusses and minuses to canning?
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved to the Bottling, Kegging, Serving forum!

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the seal on cans last longer, they stack and package better, they don't break, if you pour the beer out into the glass it should taste the same but drinking from the bottle and can side by side I can smell the can but then again I don't drink from either anymore I pour all beer in a glass
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No exposure to light in the can. One thing I wonder about is the surface area of the liquid in the can. Meaning if you force carb in a keg then transfer to a can you have the possibility of more exposure to air if you don't ream on foam.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep seems like with a can (on the homebrew scale) you'd need to condition the beer in the can with priming sugar, etc. not sure one could force carbonate for can storage. i assume one couldn't reuse a can like a bottle either. light wouldn't be a problem if you believe in that- i was a steward for beer competition last year and the judge made me stage the bottles underneath the judging table so they wouldn't be exposed to flourescent light - go figure...
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manual canners like this seem to be gaining in popularity for homebrewers - At $700 they're not completely out of the realm of possibility:

https://www.amazon.com/All-American-Master-Hand-Crank-Sealer/dp/B001DHFX92/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001DHFX92&pd_rd_r=0XM6AHK0CCKR0K9N3AZP&pd_rd_w=7H6Yb&pd_rd_wg=LomOH&psc=1&refRID=0XM6AHK0CCKR0K9N3AZP&dpID=41NpbOZZEbL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail&linkCode=ll1&tag=theelectricbrewery-20&linkId=fd602c084b888ec61c65f5d29436744f



I like the simple/manual design.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only real issue I can see with cans besides not filling it to the top is they are not reusable so it adds to your cost every time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LUkyN8p-6Y

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice video link - thanks for sharing. I'm entering the Ohio State Fair Homebrew Competition in June - I'll ask the organizer if they allow cans (just cause I'm curios).
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope - the competition committee doesn't accept cans but are considering it for the future...
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kal wrote:
Moved to the Bottling, Kegging, Serving forum!

Kal


Might have to change it to the Bottling, Kegging, Canning, Serving forum! Mr. Green
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perogi wrote:
kal wrote:
Moved to the Bottling, Kegging, Serving forum!

Kal


Might have to change it to the Bottling, Kegging, Canning, Serving forum! Mr. Green

Ha! Good point. I've changed it now to something more generic:

Packaging & Serving
Discussions on all aspects of packaging and serving beer including bottling, canning, and kegging.

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