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JMD887
Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Posts: 120 Location: Akron, Ohio
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Link Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:18 pm Post subject: Blichmann G2 BoilerMaker Kettles |
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Hey- All Happy Monday,
I've been shopping around for the last several days looking for the best deal/ price I can find on 20 Gallon G2 BoilerMakers... Best price I've found is $414.99 USD before tax... Has anyone else recently found a better price- if so where?
Thanks
-John
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JSB
Joined: 17 Oct 2016 Posts: 125 Location: NE Ohio
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Link Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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I am also in the market... well in a few months.
Bilchmann is price locked and any store sale, is almost always excluding Bilchmann.
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kal Forum Administrator
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JMD887
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Link Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Fair enough, that makes sense. I just figured I’d ask before I bought given the price. I’ve toyed with the thought of the 10 gallon BoilMakers, but like the flexibility the 20 gallon ones provide if at some point I’d like to brew larger batches. Given this possibility- I rather pay roughly $300 more now then have to buy all three again and rebuilt.
Thanks for the feed back gents.
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed. The 10 gallon ones are (IMHO) just too small. With the 20's you can do both 5 and 10 gallon batches and some have even done as much as 13-15 gallons if you're careful. I routinely make 12 gallons of beer with my 20 gal pots (because of the hoppy stuff I often make I lose a ton to dry hopping).
Good luck!
Kal
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GrumpyWally
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Link Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I found that one of Kal's "recommended" vendors offered free shipping. That saved me a considerable amount of money. I'm not naming the vendor because I'm not sure if they still do this. I still do business with them - they're really great folks to work with.
W
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JMD887
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Link Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:02 am Post subject: |
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GrumpyWally wrote: | I found that one of Kal's "recommended" vendors offered free shipping. That saved me a considerable amount of money. I'm not naming the vendor because I'm not sure if they still do this. I still do business with them - they're really great folks to work with.
W |
Nice to know. I’ll search through them and see what I can find. Worse case senario I hit the LHBS and pick them up. But if I can support the site I definitively will.
Edit/ Update- As of this AM- Adventures in Home Brewing ( https://www.homebrewing.org/?AffId=95 ) offers free UPS ground shipping
Happy Brewing.
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your support John! It’s truly appreciated!
Kal
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JMD887
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Link Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've amended my previous post to include details about free shipping previous mentioned by GrummpWally.
-Cheers
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kal Forum Administrator
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rcrabb22
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Link Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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kal wrote: | Jeff is correct. Blichmann enforces MAPs (minimum advertised price) so all retailers have to sell at the same price. Many manufacturers do this. Sony is a good example too.
When you're ready to buy, look here recommended sizing: http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/kettles-overview?page=2
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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought MAP applied to the Advertised prices. A store could sell a MAP item for less as long as they didn't publish the lower price.
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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You're right - Normally what you say is how it works, but not all manufacturers seem to follow that rule so it's confusing. I have some manufacturers that say they enforce "MAP" but when I press them on it turns out that they in fact won't allow me to sell below MAP under any circumstances - not even in private (or they'll drop you as a reseller). To me that's more of a 'minimum selling price". I'm frankly not even sure that's legal.
I know that Amazon (and some other retailers) get around MAP by forcing you to add the product to your cart before you see the price since the cart is considered 'private'. This is why you'll see some online stores list the price only as "add to cart to see price". They're most likely selling below MAP.
So long story short, I'm not 100% sure what Blichmann enforces, though I thought that they did not allow stores to sell below their MAP price. Now I'm no longer sure.
Kal
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rcrabb22
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I had heard Denon will not honor their warranty for A/V products sold by retailers if they sell below MAP with the reasoning they are being fair to all their retail partners. I agree it doesn't seem legal and would say it smacks of price fixing.
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JMD887
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Link Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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kal wrote: | So long story short, I'm not 100% sure what Blichmann enforces, though I thought that they did not allow stores to sell below their MAP price. Now I'm no longer sure.
Kal |
I think Blichmann dose enforce sellers prices. This is based on two things:
1) Of all the websites I looked at trying to find the best/lowest price on BoilerMakers, they where priced at whole number 415 USD or higher, but never lower.
2) I went to my LHBS yesterday to physically look at one of the kettles and try to strike a deal with an all cash offer negotiation. I by no means attempted to low ball them, but I intentionally only took $1000.00 and offered all of it (mind you before tax were talking $1245.00 whole numbers) but was told they couldn't adjust the price of this product. But hey- I figured it was worth the old college try.
-John
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