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GlennMcD
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Link Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:42 pm Post subject: Finished Control Panel Build, But Scared To Plug It In |
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Finish my control panel build, but scared to plug it in. Don't even know where to go from here. At day 2 just staring at wiring.
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mjo2125
Joined: 27 Feb 2017 Posts: 248 Location: Dayton, OH
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Link Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Being a non-electrician I kind of wondered about those things. My first concern would be if the panel/ system is properly grounded.
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kal Forum Administrator
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mjo2125
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Link Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:31 am Post subject: |
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my concern is not with the design but if I wired it correctly for ground.
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kal Forum Administrator
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GlennMcD
Joined: 07 Oct 2013 Posts: 51 Location: Louisiana
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Link Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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I've been probing everything. I'm more afraid of missing something and smoking it than getting lit by it. This has been 4 years in the making and ready to see it power up. I have brother in-law that is also going to check over it for me.
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kal Forum Administrator
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GlennMcD
Joined: 07 Oct 2013 Posts: 51 Location: Louisiana
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Link Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you. I know I have read it, but I will read it again.
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JSB
Joined: 17 Oct 2016 Posts: 125 Location: NE Ohio
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Link Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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GlennMcD wrote: | I've been probing everything. I'm more afraid of missing something and smoking it than getting lit by it. This has been 4 years in the making and ready to see it power up. I have brother in-law that is also going to check over it for me. |
Like Kal said... grab your multi-meter... without plugging the system into any plug... use the continuity test function to trace your circuits. Follow the wiring diagrams.
Next check ALL your post connections... SSR's, barrier strips, plugs, etc.
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 11116 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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The good news is that if you did hook up something incorrectly, the worst thing that will typically happen is that you may fry a part. Easily replaceable.
If you're concerned, one thing you may want to consider is powering it up the first time with the cables to the amp and volt meters not attached. Reason being is that there is 5VDC wiring mixed with 240V AC wiring, so any incorrect wiring is likely to fry the meters. If everything else in the panel seems to work ok after you power it up, turn it off, plug in the meters and try again. Having them unplugged on the first power up also lets you make sure you're not sending more than 5VDC to the meters from the power supplies which can also cause damage (for more info see the build instructions).
Good luck!
Kal
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GlennMcD
Joined: 07 Oct 2013 Posts: 51 Location: Louisiana
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Link Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, left those unplugged. I know I may not be too forum sociable, but I do read it a lot and found that meters have been a largely talked about subject.
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kal Forum Administrator
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GlennMcD
Joined: 07 Oct 2013 Posts: 51 Location: Louisiana
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Link Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:54 am Post subject: |
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So it did not blow up when I powered it up today, but I am a little confused on the volt meter. I powered it up to 115 to make sure all the components work but the volt meter reads 564 and when you turn the element switch it will drop to 114. I was expecting it to not read at all as to what I've read here on the forum.
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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GlennMcD wrote: | So it did not blow up when I powered it up today, but I am a little confused on the volt meter. I powered it up to 115 to make sure all the components work but the volt meter reads 564 and when you turn the element switch it will drop to 114. I was expecting it to not read at all as to what I've read here on the forum. |
Can you tell us a bit more about your setup and the parts you're using? Is this one of our control panel kits? Or did you source your own voltmeter, power supply and transformer? If self-sourced do you have links to the exact parts you used? Which of our control panels did you build or did you make your own design? Any pictures?
Kal
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GlennMcD
Joined: 07 Oct 2013 Posts: 51 Location: Louisiana
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Link Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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I built the 30amp Panel and sourced my own parts. At the time when i was sourcing you did not offer meters through your website, and they were difficult to locate on the web. What I was able to locate I will list...
Ximico Lm317 in Dc or Ac Converter 4v-30v Out Dc 1.5v-27v 1a
input: DC or AC 4V-30V
Output: DC 1.5V-27V 1A
Volt & Amp panel meters:
Specifications:
1.700VAC meter
Model NO.: XL5135V-6
Power supply: 5VDC [isolation module]
Measure range: AC700V
Resolution: 1V
Display: ultra-bright LED
Dimension: w79mm x h42mm x d26mm
Mounting hole: w76mm x h39mm
Green terminal
Mounting method: snap-in
Net weight: 70g
Specifications:
2.50A AC ammpeter
Model NO.: XL5135V-1
Power supply: 5VDC [isolation module]
Measure range: 50.0A AC with 75mv/50A external shunt
Resolution: 0.1A
Display: ultra-bright LED
Dimension: w79mm x h42mm x d26mm
Mounting hole: w76mm x h39mm
Green terminal
Mounting method: snap-in
Net weight: 70g
50A/75mV Shunt
The only thing I was unsure about when I received my meters there was a voltage divider that cam as a large separate unit, I did not install it or adjust it either.
This is per my email conversation with China.
"It's best way if you can solve the divider mounting question.
The second way, What's the max. voltage measuring range? The meter designed to measuring 700VAC with the divider, you have to calibrate it via the inner potentiometer if you want to discard the divider.
I'm not sure whether it can measure 500VAC without the divider AS the meter inner potentiometer limit. You can try it if you can do it."
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kal Forum Administrator
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