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jrolison
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Link Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:41 pm Post subject: Ball Valve operated Beer Brewing System |
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Attached, find drawing using valving to accomplish the six brewing steps described in the Electric Brewery[/quote]
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Kevin59
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Posts: 1047 Location: Fort Collins, CO
Drinking: Imperial Brown Ale
Working on: Oatmeal Stout, IPA
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Link Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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So if I'm reading the diagram correctly, you've got a total of 13 valves shown versus the 9 in the "standard" configuration, correct? Are you looking at doing solenoid valves and automating this? Or perhaps doing fixed plumbing with manual valves such that you're not moving hoses around during the brewing process?
Looks like a cool idea! I'd have to say that I wouldn't mind not swapping hoses during brewing.
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huaco
Joined: 05 Apr 2012 Posts: 1506 Location: Burleson Texas
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Link Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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I think swapping out hoses is really not that much trouble. I take my time and make sure I get it right and then DOUBLE CHECK all my connections before opening valves and turning on the pumps.
That valve diagram makes my head hurt!
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Kevin59
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Posts: 1047 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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huaco wrote: | That valve diagram makes my head hurt! |
Yeah it kinda does, but if they were solenoid valves controlled from the main control panel it'd be cool!
(Never mind that it'd cost a bloody fortune in solenoid valves!)
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jrolison
Joined: 25 Feb 2013 Posts: 24
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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mrjofus1959 wrote: | So if I'm reading the diagram correctly, you've got a total of 13 valves shown versus the 9 in the "standard" configuration, correct? Are you looking at doing solenoid valves and automating this? Or perhaps doing fixed plumbing with manual valves such that you're not moving hoses around during the brewing process?
Looks like a cool idea! I'd have to say that I wouldn't mind not swapping hoses during brewing. |
It will be fixed plumbing using cam locks to disconnect from the kettles. We are using an allen bradly plc with a MMI to guide the operator through the brewing process that is loaded by way of the particular recipe chosen by the operator. We are using 3-phase pumps driven by VFD controllers and flow meters to gauge the the various quantities of liquids and their time frames through the brewing process.The ball valves will be operated manually at first but could possibly go to motor operated ball valves in the future. We are planning to use this system for a small brewpub restaurant we are in the process of building. Hopefully we will be able to produce two batches a day and will maintain enough fermenters to insure our customers get only fresh brewed beer
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huaco
Joined: 05 Apr 2012 Posts: 1506 Location: Burleson Texas
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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If you are putting that much automation into this thing, why not build a "panel" that covers all the valve bodies and just leaves the valve control visible. That would give you a panel to mount small pilot lights on. The lights would be fired by the controller and direct the brewer which valve needs to be opened/closed. Just place two lights per valve in the location that corresponds with where the valve handle needs to be.
Just my $.02
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jrolison
Joined: 25 Feb 2013 Posts: 24
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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huaco wrote: | If you are putting that much automation into this thing, why not build a "panel" that covers all the valve bodies and just leaves the valve control visible. That would give you a panel to mount small pilot lights on. The lights would be fired by the controller and direct the brewer which valve needs to be opened/closed. Just place two lights per valve in the location that corresponds with where the valve handle needs to be.
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The MMI or man machine interface has the graphics necessary to accomplish what you describe but are not sure it is necessary. The valves will be numbered and through each operation the MMI would alert and give written instructions of the valves to be closed and opened. How ever the graphics you describe would be simpler alternative....thanks for your interest
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Kevin59
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Posts: 1047 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Be sure to post pics when you get this baby running! Sounds like an interesting setup.
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tools
Joined: 04 May 2013 Posts: 9 Location: Neenah, WI
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Have you seen Black Heart Brewery's site? Worth a look.
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Roadglide
Joined: 27 Sep 2014 Posts: 19 Location: Conifer, CO
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Link Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Noticed your schematic and as I'm in the process of designing / building my electric brewery I thought I'd post a drawing of my plumbing outline.
My only concern with what I have laid out is sizing the pumps to be able to be able to adequately move the fluids through the various valves.
Anyone care to comment - thanks.
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MGBrewery
Joined: 30 Jun 2017 Posts: 1 Location: Milwaukee
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This is amazing! Thanks you for providing this schamtic!!!! You have any completed build pictures?
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