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morrillt
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Link Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:59 am Post subject: Every time i put lid on, I get boil over.... |
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Should I not be boiling with the lid? Do I need to scoop more foop? Ideas?
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Tungsten
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Link Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:36 am Post subject: |
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I never use the lid for boiling. In fact, you WANT to leave the lid off to help drive off DMS. If you leave it on, it will precipitate on the lid and drip back into the wort.
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Creepy
Joined: 04 Feb 2014 Posts: 127 Location: North Chicago Burbs
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Link Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Tungsten wrote: | I never use the lid for boiling. In fact, you WANT to leave the lid off to help drive off DMS. If you leave it on, it will precipitate on the lid and drip back into the wort. |
+1. Couldn't agree more. Never boil with the lid on. Just not good. But hey, RDWHAHB! Cheers
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kal Forum Administrator
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foomench
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Link Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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I never boil with the lid on for DMS reasons. But I was wondering about leaving the lid on for the first several minutes, say up to 195F or so. Any thoughts on this? It seems this might help conserve a little energy and speed things up. Will the DMS (or precursors?) be released prior to reaching the boiling point, and even if so, is this needed or would the boil time be sufficient anyway?
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kal Forum Administrator
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Tungsten
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Link Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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foomench wrote: | I never boil with the lid on for DMS reasons. But I was wondering about leaving the lid on for the first several minutes, say up to 195F or so. Any thoughts on this? It seems this might help conserve a little energy and speed things up. Will the DMS (or precursors?) be released prior to reaching the boiling point, and even if so, is this needed or would the boil time be sufficient anyway? |
Honestly, I think that would be fine to do... it would get you to a boil faster and conserve energy like you said. If you do a 90 minute boil, most of it will be driven off anyway, and a 60 minute boil should even be enough in most styles. Here is my favorite resource on DMS, which I highly recommend as a fairly short but informative read:
http://beersmith.com/blog/2012/04/10/dimethyl-sulfides-dms-in-home-brewed-beer/
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foomench
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Link Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:17 am Post subject: |
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kal wrote: | If you do it, I'd set the boil PID to AUTO mode at around 208F and turn on the alarm to sound too when 208F is hit. This way there's no chance of boil over. |
Unless you live at 5000'.
My water boils around 204F, so I'd set the alarm to account for that.
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kal Forum Administrator
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