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hennesse
Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 38 Location: United States: Virginia
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Link Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:52 am Post subject: Storage Life of Malted Barley |
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What's the shelf life of malted barley?
Here's my situation: my nearest LHBS stores are 2, 3, and 4 hours round-trip away. That doesn't include shopping time, lunch, or pit stops. Grain-wise, I'd like to buy as much as I can when I make the trek, but how long can it be stored?
I transfer the grain from 50-lb sacks to 5-gal plastic pails I get free from the bakery at the local grocery store. I keep the brewery, antique motorcycles, woodshop, malted barley storage, chicken scratch, et cetera in the garage.
Brewing, woodworking and motorcycle-fixing means the garage doors are usually open. The temperature in the garage reaches 95 degrees in the summer, and 20 degrees in the winter.
How long can I keep grain in these conditions before it starts deteriorating?
Thanks - Dave
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perogi
Joined: 12 Feb 2012 Posts: 850 Location: NH
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 11122 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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It's not black and white. It's a food product and will start deteriorating the moment it is kilned.
Keep it in a cool dark place in an airtight container (not in the fridge) and you'll minimize deterioration.
I've made beer with year old base malt stored this way and it tastes great. Some of my speciality malts (crystal/roast) are 2-3 years old and I haven't noticed any issues but then you often use very little of it and I would think that something that's been kilned to higher degrees will tend to keep longer too.
I buy gain in bulk about twice a year and try to use up my base malt within 6-12 months.
More info on how I store my grain (including pictures) right here: http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/parts-list-using?page=9
Also has links to buy malt in bulk to help support the site!
Kal
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hennesse
Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 38 Location: United States: Virginia
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Link Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys.
Unfortunately, no basement. I just got The Electronic Brewery up and running this spring, and grain storage wasn't a problem when the weather was mild. Summer started yesterday (95 degrees) and I realized I needed a better solution. I'll have to zip-lock the grain, put it back in the pails and bring it inside. Maybe those gamma-lids too. Mice are a problem out here in the country, so I really didn't want to store it in the house. I guess I'm going to have to rethink my ordering habits during the hot/cold months.
I hadn't considered mail order before, due to the weight and hence shipping costs. I was surprised to find that MoreBeer's grain prices - with free shipping - are competitive with the LHBS. Are there other mail-order places with competitive prices? Never hurts to have choices.
When I lived in the Washington DC suburbs, I built a carriage house to accommodate all my hobbies. It took me years, but when I was done, I had plenty of room to fix motorcycles, brew beer, photo darkroom, play with computers, have parties - all in air-conditioned comfort. Then I met this girl. When I retired, we decided to move down to Virginia's horse country. Beautiful property, nice house, but standard garage and no basement. What was I thinking?
I'm planning to gut and remodel the garage next spring. It won't give me any more space, but it will provide comfort control for both me and the grain.
Dave
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 11122 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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hennesse wrote: | Mice are a problem out here in the country, so I really didn't want to store it in the house. |
If mice outside are a problem, it's all the more reason to store grain inside. Store it in plastic pails with gamma seal lids as I show in the previous link and the mice will not be attracted as they won't smell anything.
Quote: | I hadn't considered mail order before, due to the weight and hence shipping costs. I was surprised to find that MoreBeer's grain prices - with free shipping - are competitive with the LHBS. |
One good thing about ordering from larger place is that the turnover is fast. It's not uncommon to have grain sitting for months in smaller shops.
Here are all the bulk priced grains at MoreBeer:
http://morebeer.com/search/102153?a_aid=theelectricbrewery
(With a link to support our site too of course, at no extra cost to you!)
Kal
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hennesse
Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 38 Location: United States: Virginia
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Link Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Kal,
Thanks for the advice. I just ordered 6 Gamma Seals. Let me see how they work on my grain buckets. Maybe I'll get more for the chicken feeds which I also store in recycled bakery buckets.
Now the important question - got any suggestions on how to keep the foxes from smelling chicken dinner?
Dave
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kal Forum Administrator
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Can't help you with that... I like a good chicken dinner too...
Kal
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MishaBrewer
Joined: 16 Apr 2012 Posts: 23 Location: Frederick, MD
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Link Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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hennesse wrote: | I hadn't considered mail order before, due to the weight and hence shipping costs. I was surprised to find that MoreBeer's grain prices - with free shipping - are competitive with the LHBS. Are there other mail-order places with competitive prices? Never hurts to have choices. |
You might join a local homebrew club--they'll frequently do bulk purchases directly from the maltsters, with each member ordering what they want/need. Check over at homebrewtalk.com, as well--down towards the bottom of the main page, there are a number of "local" sub-forums (sub-fora?); local groups there will get together for bulk buys, too. If you're still not far from the DC suburbs, I know there's a group that makes purchases every other month or so; central location is Rockville.
Does your LHBS do any discounts? Quite often, being in the AHA will get you 10%. There are other ones, too (my LHBS does a military/retired military discount, for instance).
Hope this helps!
--Misha
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hennesse
Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 38 Location: United States: Virginia
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Link Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:49 pm Post subject: Thanks guys! |
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MishaBrewer wrote: | You might join a local homebrew club--they'll frequently do bulk purchases [...] If you're still not far from the DC suburbs, I know there's a group that makes purchases every other month or so; central location is Rockville.
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Misha,
I belonged to BURP for a couple years back in the late 1990's when I lived in Bethesda. They're a huge club. I just looked at "past officers" on their website, and some of the people from back then are still very active. There's a club up in Fairfax and another in Reston. One in Fredericksburg. All of them are an hour away, and knowing me, I'd never "get around" to actually attending any meetings. Warrenton's a great place to live, but there's not much going on here.
Kal,
The Gamma Seals are great. My barley is now stored indoors in a nice cool 72F. I'm also using them on the chicken feed in the garage, and I don't see any evidence of mouse-type visitors since. You've got a lot of "nice-to-have" items listed on the site, but for me, the Gamma Seals are a "must-have". Thanks!
Dave
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