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ajt012
Joined: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 54 Location: Miami
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: No power ANYWHERE |
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So I just finished wiring up my CP last night, and when I went to plug it in this morning nothing. No "clunk"noise, no blue light. Nothing. While wiring it up, I checked, double check, triple checked everything I did. I have absolutely no idea what could be wrong. It seems as if I have the main power relay wired up right.
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milldoggy
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 569 Location: Pottstown, PA
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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did you check the GFCI in the cable?
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ajt012
Joined: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 54 Location: Miami
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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i've hit the rest, and the test multiple times. I might go buy a voltmeter to something later today to see if there's any juice.
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milldoggy
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 569 Location: Pottstown, PA
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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be careful, what ever you do. Are you using the interlock? Got a pic of you main relay?
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jayinjersey
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 13
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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If you are using the interlock and you accidentally wired the NO/NO connectors wrong your system won't power as it thinks the the interlock isn't "Off"
Don't ask how I know this...
Just an FYI
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ajt012
Joined: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 54 Location: Miami
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not using the interlock. So it can't be that.
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rosenjm
Joined: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 249 Location: Ballston Spa, NY
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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If you main power relay isn't closing then concentrate your efforts on your power switch and associated wiring. I have to as the dummy questions, the breaker is shut right? Are you sure you have power to your outlet? If you are going to do any sort of troubleshooting beyond that, your gonna need a multi-meter. It is possible that your relay coil is bad too. With something non conductive (i.e. a piece of wood) push the power relay closed with the switch in the on position. If the blue light comes on, your coil is bad.
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ajt012
Joined: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 54 Location: Miami
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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So me, being a dumbass, wired two neutrals out of the main power receptacle, and there was only one power line going to the relay. That's all fixed, and after figuring out how the power cord worked, I finally got power! Woo! Now my timer is dim and my volt meter won't turn on, but atleast the hard part is over!
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rosenjm
Joined: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 249 Location: Ballston Spa, NY
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Link Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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My timer is dim too. I don't think there is anything you can really do about it. Volt meter shouldn't be too hard to figure out. If you're not getting anything on it, I'd start with the power supply. Congratulations!
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ajt012
Joined: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 54 Location: Miami
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Link Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well, i got my timer to be less dim. It doesn't make sense, since everything is wired in parallel, but when i changed the power connection point to the actual hot bus, the timers display became a bit more bright.
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Sparky
Joined: 17 Dec 2010 Posts: 217 Location: Muir Beach, California
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Link Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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That's because you're getting dissipated power across the loads since they are connected in parallel.
ajt012 wrote: | Well, i got my timer to be less dim. It doesn't make sense, since everything is wired in parallel, |
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Posts: 11116 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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crush
Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Posts: 706 Location: Telemark, Norway
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Link Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Sparky wrote: | That's because you're getting dissipated power across the loads since they are connected in parallel.
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Sparky, it's right what you say, that power is distributed across the elements of a parallel circuit. Can you say how would this make a difference to the power available to the timer? Adding a new "arm" to a parallel circuit increases the load, and increases the current flowing into the parallel circuit as a whole, which is then distributed to the components of the parallel circuit in proportion to their load. So, adding the timer to an existing parallel circuit causes more current to be drawn.
If there is something in series with the parallel circuit, then it will make a difference. Kal's design doesn't have anything in series with the timer so any series circuit is a wiring problem.
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